Interesting. I think of this often, but never really felt like doing the detective work on finding out. I thought it was just irony that these words seemed to fit so well… but it seems that we have taken these words and made them fit so well together. Especially since the word ‘devil’ was mainly a benign word for dislike, unpleasant, etc etc.
Thanks Again. I love your site!
Ajj Romine
Lambert Lorette:
April 20th, 2013 at 5:41 am
Thanks so much. Good knowledge, well put. Subhi said once, “If you want to be spiritual, you have to go beyond words”. I find that to be true, and as you said, lots of this particular focus (in this article’s question) is on orthographic resemblance…I continue to be interested in the word evil, because it just doesn’t seem to mean anything that you can relate to. What does it mean? That is, when you say good, you generally know what you are talking about; it makes sense. But “evil” doesn’t make any sense…it’s a strange word. I looked it up all over the place, and finally felt satisfied when I found it meant harmful (unfortunately I can’t remember where I ran across that source derivative of the word). When I say, or, I think, when anybody says “harmful”, then we all know what we are talking about, and we can agree or disagree about whether something is harmful, because we know what we are talking about, but when you say “evil”, it’s like something you can’t really understand, some mystical word – so, your explanation brought real relief to me. From what you are saying, the original meaning, “exceeding proper bounds”, or deviating from what is considered to be normal healthy behavior, is something a person can relate to, whereas the use of the word today is some sort of political abuse of the original word, for purposes of shock and awe I suppose…in other words, using the word for it’s extreme meaning..which is of course, in itself evil, in the original sense, that is, exceeds the proper bounds of it’s original meaning. So… the truth is, evil, as it used today, has no real meaning, and is just a perversion of (for effect), saying simply that “something is wrong.” There is also a real mischief in the word, because it inevitably implies that a person was intentionally, knowingly, doing something that they knew was not right, (thus spontaneously creating a group of really terrible people through hearsay), but what I have heard (Subhi) is that man never does that, but always thinks, no matter how much in error, that what he is doing is right.
tracy elias:
February 1st, 2014 at 5:50 am
the simularities of positive and negitive, good and evil,even yes and no,in translation of many origans,have uses of the vocabulary that rechior less effort to state the positive.the simularities in pronunciation of yes and no,also needs concideration
tracy elias:
February 1st, 2014 at 5:58 am
alien and angel (1 letter)
robert brasher:
July 26th, 2014 at 4:55 am
evil is live backwards, as in suppressive to life…angel and angle connected… gather and ghut are connected …god being plural originally … gather as one… at one ment… I would say good is connected to god, gawd …giddy means possessed by god…or oneness perhaps….gathering others into that godspell oneness..gospels giddy spells??? gid? good? angels approach or create reality , come fiction, from a different angle???
luis:
September 10th, 2015 at 10:15 am
Angel and angle are connected. Angel, meaning a messenger of God, comes from the zodiac wheel and Saturn EL. The idea of an Oracle (Oral of EL) taking the zodiac wheel and connecting the sign of the month (moon th) you where born in and the month your on and getting your ang of EL. Same reason that the ang of EL’s end with EL. Like Micha EL, Gabri EL, RA fa EL ect.
Henry Williams jr:
January 15th, 2016 at 4:53 pm
Cras vos videbo Deo volente. Latin for goodbye. Literally it says: “I will see you [pl.] tomorrow if God wills it].
TR:
March 3rd, 2017 at 8:52 am
I’m so happy I found this website….
Robert Thompson:
April 8th, 2017 at 8:46 am
Thank you for an accurate explanation of these words. Very useful! If we were to use “original” meanings, our communications would be so different:)
Will Shaman:
January 8th, 2020 at 6:35 am
On a related note, I’d be interested to learn of any etymological relationship between “Saturn” and “Satan”. I know “Satan” derives from “The Saitan”, an ancient Jewish mythological character (probably older, pre-Jewish — Babylonian borrowing?) who was “The Tester”. Unlike the modern Christian concept of Satan being evil, The Saitan was really just a necessary part of what might be deemed ‘quality control’ — it’s good to be tested, to mke sure things are working as they should. Meanwhile, Saturn (the Roman equivalent of the Greek god Kronos, associated with time) was the “Lord of Boundaries” and thereby gained a reputation for being a bad or unwelcome god, especially in traditional Hellenistic astrology. I can therefore see a link between the two ideas, although the words’ roots seem to be from different language families. Perhaps this is just a case of independent evolution, rather like ostriches, emus and rheas all looking the same but being unrelated?
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Ajj Romine:
August 30th, 2012 at 12:01 am
Interesting. I think of this often, but never really felt like doing the detective work on finding out. I thought it was just irony that these words seemed to fit so well… but it seems that we have taken these words and made them fit so well together. Especially since the word ‘devil’ was mainly a benign word for dislike, unpleasant, etc etc.
Thanks Again. I love your site!
Ajj Romine
Lambert Lorette:
April 20th, 2013 at 5:41 am
Thanks so much. Good knowledge, well put. Subhi said once, “If you want to be spiritual, you have to go beyond words”. I find that to be true, and as you said, lots of this particular focus (in this article’s question) is on orthographic resemblance…I continue to be interested in the word evil, because it just doesn’t seem to mean anything that you can relate to. What does it mean? That is, when you say good, you generally know what you are talking about; it makes sense. But “evil” doesn’t make any sense…it’s a strange word. I looked it up all over the place, and finally felt satisfied when I found it meant harmful (unfortunately I can’t remember where I ran across that source derivative of the word). When I say, or, I think, when anybody says “harmful”, then we all know what we are talking about, and we can agree or disagree about whether something is harmful, because we know what we are talking about, but when you say “evil”, it’s like something you can’t really understand, some mystical word – so, your explanation brought real relief to me. From what you are saying, the original meaning, “exceeding proper bounds”, or deviating from what is considered to be normal healthy behavior, is something a person can relate to, whereas the use of the word today is some sort of political abuse of the original word, for purposes of shock and awe I suppose…in other words, using the word for it’s extreme meaning..which is of course, in itself evil, in the original sense, that is, exceeds the proper bounds of it’s original meaning. So… the truth is, evil, as it used today, has no real meaning, and is just a perversion of (for effect), saying simply that “something is wrong.” There is also a real mischief in the word, because it inevitably implies that a person was intentionally, knowingly, doing something that they knew was not right, (thus spontaneously creating a group of really terrible people through hearsay), but what I have heard (Subhi) is that man never does that, but always thinks, no matter how much in error, that what he is doing is right.
tracy elias:
February 1st, 2014 at 5:50 am
the simularities of positive and negitive, good and evil,even yes and no,in translation of many origans,have uses of the vocabulary that rechior less effort to state the positive.the simularities in pronunciation of yes and no,also needs concideration
tracy elias:
February 1st, 2014 at 5:58 am
alien and angel (1 letter)
robert brasher:
July 26th, 2014 at 4:55 am
evil is live backwards, as in suppressive to life…angel and angle connected… gather and ghut are connected …god being plural originally … gather as one… at one ment… I would say good is connected to god, gawd …giddy means possessed by god…or oneness perhaps….gathering others into that godspell oneness..gospels giddy spells??? gid? good? angels approach or create reality , come fiction, from a different angle???
luis:
September 10th, 2015 at 10:15 am
Angel and angle are connected. Angel, meaning a messenger of God, comes from the zodiac wheel and Saturn EL. The idea of an Oracle (Oral of EL) taking the zodiac wheel and connecting the sign of the month (moon th) you where born in and the month your on and getting your ang of EL. Same reason that the ang of EL’s end with EL. Like Micha EL, Gabri EL, RA fa EL ect.
Henry Williams jr:
January 15th, 2016 at 4:53 pm
Cras vos videbo Deo volente. Latin for goodbye. Literally it says: “I will see you [pl.] tomorrow if God wills it].
TR:
March 3rd, 2017 at 8:52 am
I’m so happy I found this website….
Robert Thompson:
April 8th, 2017 at 8:46 am
Thank you for an accurate explanation of these words. Very useful! If we were to use “original” meanings, our communications would be so different:)
Will Shaman:
January 8th, 2020 at 6:35 am
On a related note, I’d be interested to learn of any etymological relationship between “Saturn” and “Satan”. I know “Satan” derives from “The Saitan”, an ancient Jewish mythological character (probably older, pre-Jewish — Babylonian borrowing?) who was “The Tester”. Unlike the modern Christian concept of Satan being evil, The Saitan was really just a necessary part of what might be deemed ‘quality control’ — it’s good to be tested, to mke sure things are working as they should. Meanwhile, Saturn (the Roman equivalent of the Greek god Kronos, associated with time) was the “Lord of Boundaries” and thereby gained a reputation for being a bad or unwelcome god, especially in traditional Hellenistic astrology. I can therefore see a link between the two ideas, although the words’ roots seem to be from different language families. Perhaps this is just a case of independent evolution, rather like ostriches, emus and rheas all looking the same but being unrelated?