Highfalutin

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  1. Dayton:

    I have no means to substantiate my theory, but I always thought it was a corruption of “saluting”. A “high-saluting” military man might be overly crisp and formal in his bearing, and condescending to subordinates. I figured the transformation of S to F might have derived from the era when the “long s” “aka “medial s” or “descending s” was widespread.

  2. David F:

    I wonder if falutin’ might have come from flaunt or flaunting?

    David.

  3. Greg:

    In the dseries/documentry “The adveture of English” it was suggested that highfalutin referred to the high flutes on the river boats. As opposed to the riff raff who sailed in small rafts using paddles called riffs.

  4. matt:

    I thought it was something you apply a gradation to. Maybe there’s a situation is which we are lowfalutin of just middlefalutin. Can we be extremefalutin? Usually I’m just falutin if I’m lucky.

  5. Emmaean:

    As one from old Southern US stock, I have believed for a long time that high falutin gained its origin in that the best statesrooms on the old paddlewheelers plying the Mississippi River were high up, and flanking the twin smokestacks. These smokestacks were often fluted to resemble the Greek Revival columns popular in the architecture of the day. Those of us (my ancestors, that is) down in the steerage called the inhabitants of those cabins “high falutin” speaking with our Southern drawl.

  6. Lisa B:

    I was just in New Glarus, Wisconsin at a Museum of artifacts and tools used back in the 1800s, 1900s and oe thing that was pointed out was a little iron that woman would use to make flute like crinkles into the colors of there blouses and thought that maybe it had to do with that. Different ranks of socialites and different wealthy groups maybe it came from that??

  7. Harmon:

    Always heard it as “highfaluting.”

    Seems most reasonable to think it is a corruption of “high flaunting,” which is a little bit of a tongue twister.

  8. Jaime LeBlond:

    I love this answer about the columns. My sister just developed a theory that the word highfalutin came from the latin word valute, which described a fluted or fancy trim around the top of a greek column. I thought it was brilliant and went searching and was thrilled to see your comment!

  9. Angela Watershoo:

    The word faluting comes from the French falut, which means salvation. A high faluting person is a person who is a religous zealot. The meaning became generalized to refer to all forms of arrogance.

  10. Tom W:

    I was born and raised near Charlotte, NC, and I’ve never – not once in my life – heard highfalutin with a “g” at the end. I’m pretty sure that if I had, I would’ve been quick to point out that the person using that form of pronunciation was highfalutin themselves.

  11. Adam B:

    I’ve always wondered where this phrase came from. In the absence of actual knowledge, I came up with this origin. The term comes from the Greek architectural detail of “fluted” columns. Modern examples can be seen here. http://www.columns.us.com/fluted-columns/fluted-architectural-columns
    Since larger more expensive homes would have tall pillars out front with higher fluting, one could say “that is some high fluting” or Highfalutin.

  12. Yoav:

    While looking up on wikipedia some info about thomas mores famous book Utopia, we discovered that the narrators greek name was. “Hythlodaeus means “dispenser
    of nonsense” ;

    Maybe there is a link…

  13. Mr. Rick:

    I have heard this explanation before, or something similar. The better place to be was where the embers and ash from the “high fluted smokestacks” would pass over your head, rather than rain down upon you – as in the steerage seats. Paddle wheelers with high “fluted” stacks were more upscale.

  14. Cheryl Fischman:

    The smokestack comment is indeed the correct answer as is the riff raff in same comment

  15. Robert:

    The explanations that make the most sense in this discussion to me are the riverboat because of the pronunciation of “falutin” for fluting. For example, “Then thar peeples is tha highfalutin ones sitting up thar on the top, you see Jeb. Theys is the ones with all da money….My humble opinion…

  16. John Lane:

    Thats a clever solution.I like it.

  17. Nick M.:

    I wonder if the word Fluting refers to the fluting (ridges) done in armour?

  18. Chris O:

    Like Tom, I’ve never heard this with a fully-enunciated ‘g’ at the end. This is coming from central Indiana. I’ve been surprised to find the term in more common use lately.

  19. Ken:

    I am also from an old southern family. My grandparents used this term frequently and I use it still. I always understood it to originate from riding high on a steamboat. I’m not sure about the “falutin” originating from fluted stacks, floating, or Fulton, but I can say that at least as far back as the late 19th century on the Tennessee River it was understood to be steamboat-related. I’m surprised this is not better known. It’s no secret down here.

  20. Ken:

    Follow-up comment – I have rarely heard steamboats referred to as “Fulton-boats” before, although “paddle-wheeler” was the common term used. Sometimes “side-wheeler” if the boat was, in fact, a side wheeler.

  21. Robert C:

    Just my opinion that we got off on the wrong track here from the beginning. Why would anyone think that a southerner (such as myself) would take an easy word such as fluting and increase the difficulty of pronunciation by adding an “a”. Fluting would only be shortened to flutin and all true Southerners known that. So maybe we are trying to compensate for that by saying its steamboat related? I personally don’t know the origin myself but I’d go with Angela Watershoo’s definition above from high valuting before the steamboat explanation.

  22. Nora A.:

    This was the question from “the Moot Game” to which high-falutin was given as the answer:
    What word was coined to describe flautists who held their instruments pretentiously high while performing?

  23. Demetre:

    It had to do with the steam boats in the south mainly in mississippi and tennesse. Lower class people could only afford tickets in the bottom level. Middle class in the middle section. All the well to do people with alot of money enjoyed being outside on the top deck. There is where the smoke stacks where which are called flutes. So all the people on the lower levels called them highfaluten.

  24. Jeff:

    Any way you look at it, the origin appears to be from a mistake, either in pronunciation or in spelling. It is sad to me that our language is allowed to evolve in such a way, as the end result of this type of folly is ultimately to render this form of communication unable to represent ideas accurately from one person to another. If I can’t trace the origin, then I don’t consider it a real word.

  25. Arfistov:

    I suspect the French connection to be valid. It wouldn’t be the first Cajun expression bastardized by the southern sorgum drawl. Being close to New Year’s I cite Hoppin John — a derivative of pois pegeon — as precedence.

  26. Wayne White:

    Although I expect the gentleman referring to the steamboats is probably correct, I would wonder if any credence could be derived from inferring a high pitched passing of gas, flatulence. It is indeed a derogatory remark to the upper class who would think they were better than the general population. Just a thought.

  27. Graham Grant:

    If ‘highfalutin’ is supposedly an American word originating in the 1820′s howcome Geoffrey Chaucer used this word in ‘The Physician’s Tale’ written in 14th Cent?
    No highfalutin pretty words had she
    To ape deep knowledge; after her degree
    She spoke,and all her words, greater and less,
    Tended to virtue and to gentleness.

  28. Graham Grant:

    I think you should think again, this word was used – to mean pompous, arrogant, haughty – by Geoffrey Chaucer in ‘The Physician’s Tale’ written in 14th Century (see my comment at the bottom of the page). Not too many crisp military men in Medieval England.

  29. T A:

    Chaucer actually uses the word “countrefeted,” which is Middle English. “Highfalutin” appears in at least one translation of the Tale into modern English; but the term does not appear in Chaucer’s text. I hope that helps!

  30. David Hammer:

    Steamboats are correct – When people realized they could charge for rides on the riverboats, the water level seats were the cheapest, followed by the first tier, followweed by the level. Each level became increasingly most costly. However, the top level subjected the passengers to the smoke from the boilers. To rectify the problem, the stacks were made a bit higher, with the “flutes” on top (as depicted by photos from the era) would dicipate the smoke away from the passengers. Thus, the people on the top level had the “money” to sit there, as thusly became the “high flutin’” people.

  31. Graham Grant:

    Thank you, it does help and I am very grateful. Graham

  32. julie:

    the smokestacks stuff sounds too cute by half. i suspect the high-flying/high-flown idea is the real origin…but why do u dismiss high-FLOATING out of hand? that seems by far a more likely source if you’re going w theory 2.

    high-faloatin’ as an intermediary form if u will. i could well picture it pronounced this way in satire, comics, etc.

  33. Tom:

    one reason people think it should be high-faluting is that for example i’ve seen it spelt high-falutin’ asif it were the survival of the old participle and the back-corrected to the modern participle from the gerundive -ing; which of course is a hi falutin’ grammar nazi invention to spread the gerundive back over the participle

  34. Mik:

    Graham, and others: user TA refuted this factoid in his/her reply: “Chaucer actually uses the word “countrefeted,” which is Middle English. “Highfalutin” appears in at least one translation of the Tale into modern English; but the term does not appear in Chaucer’s text. I hope that helps!”

  35. Rachael:

    Maybe silly, but… Though I’m a Tennessean, and grew up with the steamboat metaphor, I was suddenly wondering: does anyone think “highfalutin” might be related to thd Greek word “philautia”– self love? So “highfalutin” could be an adjective/adverb meaning “too much love, arrogance,etc.” Believe me, I know this sounds crazy!

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