The Full Monty is cockney rhyming slang and means ‘The Full Story’ possibly after Moses Montefiore a notorious larger than life character who was sherrif of London in 1837.
Monty–fee–ory = story
Gary Rhoades:
July 19th, 2013 at 12:48 am
First time I heard this expression was 1970, and I was in my first week at University. A mancunian said’ so I went for the full monty’. Had never heard it before but guessed what it meant.
The cockney rhyming slang derivation is a new one on me.
Sidney Denney:
September 12th, 2013 at 10:46 am
I was born and grew up in the East End of London where the expression “The (Full) Monty, together with much other rhyming slang was in use.
It is derived from the Hungarian Rhapsody CSARDAS composed by MONTI.
If you were unclothed you were STARK NAKED, or STARKERS, a close pronunciation to the word STARKERS is CSARDAS, hence, without clothes you were in the Monty, and if naked, you were in the Full Monty…..
(Monti’s CSARDAS).
Hope this helps.
Rather ironic if “the full monty” meaning of “getting the whole, 3-piece suit” transformed into “wearing nothing at all.” “The Emperor’s New Clothes” must have been a popular story with whomever changed that.
Brian:
May 15th, 2021 at 2:34 pm
I was born in 60s Salford and remember some old solders from the Lancashire regiment ww2 in the 70s saying about giving Rommel the full Monty at el-alamaein in northern Africa. In other words throwing the kitchen sink at it with all guns blazing. Years later Percy Sugden from Corry st went on about it.
Rob:
January 20th, 2022 at 8:13 am
I don’t think Tom understands how cockney slang rhymes. Apples = stairs via apples and pears
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Thomas Wall:
June 2nd, 2009 at 9:23 am
The Full Monty is cockney rhyming slang and means ‘The Full Story’ possibly after Moses Montefiore a notorious larger than life character who was sherrif of London in 1837.
Monty–fee–ory = story
Gary Rhoades:
July 19th, 2013 at 12:48 am
First time I heard this expression was 1970, and I was in my first week at University. A mancunian said’ so I went for the full monty’. Had never heard it before but guessed what it meant.
The cockney rhyming slang derivation is a new one on me.
Sidney Denney:
September 12th, 2013 at 10:46 am
I was born and grew up in the East End of London where the expression “The (Full) Monty, together with much other rhyming slang was in use.
It is derived from the Hungarian Rhapsody CSARDAS composed by MONTI.
If you were unclothed you were STARK NAKED, or STARKERS, a close pronunciation to the word STARKERS is CSARDAS, hence, without clothes you were in the Monty, and if naked, you were in the Full Monty…..
(Monti’s CSARDAS).
Hope this helps.
tom:
April 13th, 2018 at 11:54 am
I wonder if either Thomas or Sidney know what ‘rhyming’ means.
Story,… Monty Just because they both end in Y doesn’t make them rhyming
Angela White:
September 1st, 2019 at 9:18 am
Monty is short for Montefiore and, as such, does rhyme with story.
Jennifer King:
September 8th, 2020 at 8:06 am
Rather ironic if “the full monty” meaning of “getting the whole, 3-piece suit” transformed into “wearing nothing at all.” “The Emperor’s New Clothes” must have been a popular story with whomever changed that.
Brian:
May 15th, 2021 at 2:34 pm
I was born in 60s Salford and remember some old solders from the Lancashire regiment ww2 in the 70s saying about giving Rommel the full Monty at el-alamaein in northern Africa. In other words throwing the kitchen sink at it with all guns blazing. Years later Percy Sugden from Corry st went on about it.
Rob:
January 20th, 2022 at 8:13 am
I don’t think Tom understands how cockney slang rhymes. Apples = stairs via apples and pears