Dead to rights

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22 comments on this post.
  1. Joe Mac:

    A dead cert

  2. Matt:

    Interesting analysis but I disagree. I’ve encountered the use of % ” and “to rights” in the ways you’ve described, but I believe that the case is not that complicated, that the phrase means exactly what it says. It suggests that a person would be ineligible for (dead to) any right of appeal. I think it’s as simple as that, but it’s just a gut feeling and I could be wrong.

  3. allan:

    Why does “dead to rights” simply mean that one is dead (i.e., without a doubt) to the point that his is being administered last “rights”?

  4. Joseph Curwen:

    Because you dont administer the last ‘rights’ you administer the last ‘rites’ as in rituals.

  5. Jeremy:

    Matt’s position on the phrase appears to be reading a bit into the useage. There is no implied denial of appeal, however if an individual would be so bold as to use the phrase it would be more than likely that an appeal would be nothing more than a waste of tax dollars!!

    Ex: An Officer on Partol observes a subject using a rock to break the window of a vehicle, the suspect then reaches in and removes a GPS unit and places it on his person. The Officer subsequently detains the subject on scene finds neither the vehicle nor GPS to be property of the suspect. The suspect is then arrested and charged. In retelling the story to a co-worker, the Officer would like say “I had him dead to rights”. The suspect has the right to appeal but it’s a waste.

    There is no denied right of appeal in that phase.

  6. Steve:

    I see. Death is when the heart comes to a dead stop.

  7. j:

    This phrase is obvious, if you think about the words…

    I had him “Dead to rights”

    Think of “Dead to rights” as Brackets.

    On one side is Dead… the other is “Last rights. This person is in a Lose – Lose situation. They are caught!

    It is akin to “A rock and a hard place”

  8. G S:

    Criminy. These comments are wearing me out. I thought smarter people frequented this site.

  9. Terry:

    A person in our society has certain rights …right to an attorney, trial by his peers, right to face his accuser, Miranda rights (in the US) etc. But the person who is caught “dead to rights” is not going to be saved by these rights because the evidence is so strong and un deniable against him.

  10. Tax Lawyer:

    I’ve been active in taxes for lengthier then I care to acknowledge, both on the private side (all my working life-time!!) and from a legal standpoint since passing the bar and following tax law. I’ve rendered a lot of advice and righted a lot of wrongs, and I must say that what you’ve posted makes perfect sense. Please persist in the good work – the more people know the better they’ll be equipped to comprehend with the tax man, and that’s what it’s all about.

  11. John:

    Steve is funny and G S is so right about the comments.

  12. W:

    I don’t know how I stumbled upon this forum, but the expression “dead to rights” is also used by people in Law Enforcement. My cousin told me a story about his SWAT experiences of approaching a front door and a man was hiding behind stuff with a gun pointed right at him, and that guy had him “dead to rights”

  13. KY HOLE:

    I’m with G S.

  14. chris collingsworth:

    Duh, I can’t stop using this phrase during sunday night football. Maybe now I understand the true meaning, I’ll stop. I’m a lawyer!

  15. Interlineal P.E.Ruser _ P.robable E.rror:

    I dunno about ‘dead to rights/rites’ but I’m ‘read to diets’! Food for thought?

  16. BobH007:

    I’ve heard the term used mostly in a law enforcement concept, but wondered if it didn’t date back to the sea-faring days when an attacking ship had the victim ship perpendicular to its path, able to fire a broadside of cannon. That would be at ‘right’ angle and the vessel receiving the fire ‘dead to rights.’ It certainly has a more romantic connotation for me.

  17. Kristina:

    I think it comes from the Catholic “Last Rights”, “dead to Rights” simply referes to be dead, after last rights…

    Where one’s last rights are no longer availible…After death, you are judged, you cannot repent…

    Odd little quirky Catholic phrase which has been popularized by repetition….

    You won’t hear me use it, I am not Catholic…

    :-p

  18. Ignatian-Mystic:

    Personally, I think that the interpretations given by T.W.D., Matt, and some of the others could all be applied to the phrase in different situations. Whatever floats your boat.

  19. El Sid:

    This could be an example of US usage being fossilised whilst British usage has evolved. These days a Brit would normally say “bang to rights” rather than “dead to rights”, even if the latter is the phrase with the longer history.

    I must admit, that to these British ears, TWD’s line seems most plausible. The average medieval lynch mob didn’t care too much about rights of appeal, but the circumstances of arrest did matter quite a bit, it was important to do it correctly. The ship theory is just fanciful, the religious theories forget that in that context it is spelt “rites”….

  20. Trevon:

    You can always tell an expert! Thanks for cotnirbuting.

  21. DanielVincentKelleyOnYT:

    Matt got it exactly right. The author of this nonsense is wholly wrong. Dead to rights means, the person is no longer eligible for rights. Rights as voting, gun ownership and freedom, disappear upon conviction. That this was cop slang speaks to the cop mentality being their presumptuous ability to revoke rights.

  22. harvey:

    In many a Louis L’Amour western either a good guy or a bad guy could be caught “dead to rights.” My interpretation is that someone is a dead duck, with only the whim of the shooter determining if he will pull the trigger and kill the shootee! In these stories there are several scenarios: the potential shootee drops his pistol [as in the sheriff had him dead to rights...so I dropped my pistol]; or the shootee realizes his predicament but is too tough to go out peaceably…so he ends up sprawled in the dust with a crimson spot spreading on his shirt/vest/jacket from a bullet in the chest/arm/leg/etc. Or, it could be that someone was caught in the act of theft: he knew it/they knew it/she knew it…and someone could or might call the sheriff; escape from the scene would be possible but escape from the crime would not be possible. Anyhow, this is my contribution to this discussion.

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